Absolution:
Amarr Battlecruiser skill bonuses:
4% bonus to all Armor Resistances
10% bonus Medium Energy Turret capacitor use
Command Ships skill bonuses:
5% bonus to Medium Energy Turret rate of fire
10%(+5) bonus Medium Energy Turret damage
3% bonus to strength of Armored Warfare and Information Warfare links
Fixed Bonus:
Can fit up to three Warfare Link modules

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10% bonus Medium Energy Turret capacitor use

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Give us proper bonuses on Amarr laser ships, like so:

10% bonus Medium Energy Turret optimal range
(was 10% bonus Medium Energy Turret capacitor use)


And then introduce a new skill Controlled Energy Bursts(5x), the skill reduces capacitor use by Energy Turrets by 10% per level, requires Controlled Bursts V.

Please, it is needed.

Extended Magazine holds(5x) - Increases the number of charges your weapons can hold by 5%.

Would you be willing to trade for this or are you just being unreasonable?

I'm Gallente, specialized in projectiles and capless weapons mostly, Minmatar hulls, my connection to Amarr in general is about as heart warming as my connection to you, which your continued poor behaviour guarantees.
I occasionally fly other ships and I like things balanced, as opposed to your agenda where you want lasers to stay the second rate weapon system it is at the moment; Spouting in essence "lasers are fine" doesn't cut it because that is just a lie and anyone with a moderately objective view can see that.


Soon you'll be telling me base HML damage isn't too low, blaster damage isn't too high and the talos is fine with drones and tracking for its intended role as well... yeah no, when **** stinks I point where it is so CCP can hopefully pick it up, if you want to pretend it smells like roses whilst dancing on the turds that is all on you pal but you'll be dancing alone.

Each weapon system has its strong points and it drawbacks.

in order of best base stats comparing large Blasters, AC, and Lasers (left - best, right - worst):

Damage modifier: Blasters, Lasers, Autocannons

Range: (combined optimal/falloff): Lasers, Autocannons, Blasters

Tracking: Blasters, Autocannons, Lasers

Capacitor Friendly: Autocannons, Lasers, Blasters

Reload Time: Lasers, Blasters, Autocannons

lets use a point system to accumulate a score shall we? (3 point for best, 2 for second, 1 for worst)

Blasters = 10

Lasers = 9

Autocannons = 9

Puts blasters in the lead by 1 point with autocannons and lasers tied. Seems pretty fair to me.

And before anyone mentions ammo i will say i didnt include them because the bonuses damage they produce dont always match up with other weapon systems. if it turns out the ammo is what needs to be fixed talk about that.

You seriously believe anyone will take you seriously after starting like that, that is not an opinion piece, that is trolling.





Lasers would still have cap problems after a 50% reduction, do you even fly Amarr at all?
You say the 50% cap reduction is perverting the difference of races, so every ship with 4 turrets or capacitor use reduction with lasers is perverted?
Seriously man, you're stuck in some kind of principled limbo where you refuse to look at the facts and throw hyperbole around like it's the only thing you know.

Now you play the victim and moan about being unjustly labelled a troll and a condescending one you are, you do not discuss the topic, you spout vague principled phrases which are largely unfounded in the big picture of current state of affairs facts and think you've somehow shown some kind of evidence that refutes mine and many others claims on lasers being too reliant on capacitor.

Try to not respond to my posts as you will have nothing useful to bring to them, next time you initiate a discussion try not to be a jackass from the start and it will probably serve you better.

Drone bay fozzie drone bay... 250m3 means that your drones are going to be shot out from under you in no time when fighting anyone w/o an amoeba brain. Atm you don't even have a backup wave of heavies if you intend to fit any other types of drones which any sane person will do.

Give it 325m3 and I'll be "more" inclined to believe that they are well balanced.

EDIT: also, imo, lasers in general need to have either their cap use brought down, or the hull bonuses that decrease cap use need to be stronger. I'm fine with the range/tracking tradeoffs as they are but it's not acceptable that my ship that is sacrificing a hull bonus slot to have its guns still require 50% more capacitor than a hybrid who's ship is still receiving a dps/application/tanking/whatever bonus. And our highest dps ammo having an additional 25% cap use penalty on top of that for what's otherwise the exact same stats? And even in perfect conditions, latency causing ammo switching to still take 2-3 seconds or more, pretty much negating half of the "instant ammo swap" that's supposed to be what makes lasers so godly enough to receive such harsh problems in every other aspect of their life? Weapons already fire at the very start of their cycle, how seriously hard can it be to program things so that if you right click and select a new ammo type during the "cooldown", it will start the next cycle with that ammo, instead of requiring 3 separate inputs from the player that all require a back-and-forth to the server which are all plagued by everyday latency as well as the server's 1-second update rate. Hell, it's not like the ammo swapping system isn't already in place, just instead of having each command handled by a separate player input, only have the initial player input start the process that has the "stop guns firing" code sequence end by starting the "remove ammo" which already leads into "load ammo" followed by the 0, 5, or 10 second delay as per weapon type, and finally have that go to the "start guns firing", all being handled automatically and by the server from just the one click by the player while guns were still in the "cooling down" phase of their cycle. You guys can even put in a 0.1 second delay between each command to give the server some breathing room and it will still feel instant enough to the player, and significantly better than having to wait for your gun to stop with the extra half cycle your client started it doing while the server was derping, navigate right click menus as fast as possible, wait for the client to recognize that the server has loaded the guns properly before it lets you start firing, and then finally hitting F1 again, during which time the target you were firing at has gone out of the range where standard is best for dps and is now in xray optimal range, but y'know what, it's ******* okay because you accidentally input one of your commands to your instant ammo swap turret TOO fast so none of it got recognized and you're actually still firing the microwave you had fitted before, so you'd have to go through the entire process AGAIN this time slowly drawing out every step just to make sure the game recognizes what you are doing, and this time going into multifrequency even though it would still be in laser's pitiful falloff just because you don't want to go through the whole damn process again when you know the frig will probably keep getting closer, all the while asking yourself why you don't just use autocannons that let you choose your damage type while their falloff curve naturally and automatically adjusts your damage to range and you can just leave in the short range/high damage ammo because it's only reducing their already nonexistent optimal range while leaving their actually significant range completely untouched and all the while using 0 capacitor on ships that have the exact same recharge rate. Yes, a nerve has been touched. /rant

The problem with this approach is that you lose any kind of flexibility while fitting because ships are designed to have very tight specific fits.

But that's just my opinion.

If you want an unkillable fleet commander, bring a titan. They give huge fleet boosts and you can't alpha them.

For God's sake guys...

now fit links and overheat the shield hardeners. it's a command ship, not a brawler.

getting closer. what if we spend some cash on faction hardeners? foes that close the gap?

You Sir, are terrible at fitting ships for tanking. That's all I can see here. http://i.imgur.com/bsevzW4.jpg?1 this got links, and can possibly fit rails aswell. Just throwin' on some smartbombs cause whatever. Has a siege warfare mindlink. OH goes up to 260k - that's not all that bad compared to damnation and reps land 4 ticks earlier (3.6secs or so).

So the suggestion to give command ships a better chance of survival is to turn a 300mil ship into a 1.3 bill isk ship by fitting faction/deadspace mods? Now that isn't going to make them more of a juicy target is it?
Looking at it from a small fleet/gang (15 to 20) point of view, faction dead space fit command ships = shi**y killboard for the owner. Yes having a command ship requires trade off's in fitting but should those trade off be, run a command ship or not?

from the points of view of resisting alpha and giving boost, they're the most powerful players, no?

sure it's a lot of cash to risk, but do you want to win or not? what was the cost to TEST for example, of losing Fountain? sometimes you just have to go all in.

Increasing the tank of a fleet booster in proportion to the fleet size is just not sensible.

Look, the fact is that fleet boosters are, for fleets up to a certain size, legitimate strategic targets - just like logistics and EWAR.

But once my fleet is big enough that I can alpha anything, Whether your fleet does or doesn't have a fleet booster is actually irrelevant. I'll alpha your ships anyway, and I'll leave your fleet booster until last. Since to me, he's the least threatening.

If my fleet is that size, I'll also ignore your logistics and your ewar. I'll just kill your damage dealers as fast as I can, after I've headshotted your FC and his 2ic. They are by far the most dangerous things on the field, because they are human minds that contain nothing other than the fervent desire to whelp my fleet.

So it turns out that tactics must change as the scale of any encounter changes. This is OK. It's just life.

Ninjas are great in small skirmishes. In the battle of the Somme, they're just bodies.

You dont know what ideas are?

They said that they want to take away the 10% HP per level of the damnation, you may missed the important ccp statements. Dude, you should try to read what other persons write thanks.

The old gang link system was exactly this... but they ditched it because it was a massive drain on resources. The only way they can fix it is if they assign gang boosters.... which totally defeats the purpose of what they are arguing for. Don't get your hopes up.

On a sidenote, accidentaly wapred my hulltanked boosteos into an escalated anom by accident. I blame new boosting mechanics with their orbit forcefield at 500m requirements. It survived in half structure thanks to a good archonpilot.

I just like the Brutix in Eos colours okay leave me alone. If it's any consolation I actually think the navy brutix should have been a navy myrm and that the regular brutix should have gotten a tracking bonus instead of keeping the armor rep bonus.

And what about those logi cruisers with combat navy variants?